Spending 24 hours in tokyo. I want to experience the weirdest things and buy the weirdest souvenirs. No boundaries. Sex food or anything else.
Has anyone here moved or lived in Finland for extended periods?
What were your impressions?
I've long considered moving there.
I lived in Finland for 2 years, ask me anything.
Finns are not friendly and dislike foreigners as a culture. Individually, they are nice enough once you break the ice.
Nature is beautiful and largely unspoiled. The food is hearty and has more flavor than the other poster gives it credit for. The pastries and chocolates alone....Fazer bars are some of the best chocolate I've ever had.
Everything is expensive, but so is everything in Europe. Finland is cheaper than Sweden and Norway (and Iceland).
To the person who wants to go to Norway and thinks Finland is expensive...........lol.
Hah.......IT SUCKS BALLS IN FINLAND!
Most mean spirited bitter people I have ever seen,
in fact abnormal type, napoleon complex sufferers!
Look into history and you'll understand!
If any of you have a chance GO TO AMERICA, CANADA OR AUSTRALIA,
if you end up with n Finland you'll destroy your life....or they Finns do it for u!
Finland is almost as bureaucratic as Soviet Union ,with all the permits, paperwork and scattered state offices, used to be. To become a resident is a struggle with all the paperwork needed. People are for most part just lazy but smart and on the overweight side living in their own bubble. Food is terrible! Services are way too expensive. Northern part (Lapland) is amazing in its beauty. People are in a way stubborn and ignorant but the ones that have seen the world are warm and friendly. Vodka tourists are loud and provocative and rude or even vulgar. Evenings are very quiet if you reside away from big cities. You can hardly see any neighbours even in high story buildings on the way out or in. Public transport (train) is very effective and thought through. Dry winter inland seems softer than by the sea and humid and sometimes very rainy summer just kills you. Mainstream beer lacking any character tastes like piss. Makkara is a worst possible imitation of german wurst. Bread tastes like sawdust. Regular milk is lactosefree low fat product resembling tasteless milky water. Coffee is strangely sour and finns drink it a lot.
I absolutely agree!!!
They helped the Nazis during ww2. Hope the all drink themselves to death. Jarvi in Finnish means human excrement.
Well.. No. It went the other way around and only after repeatedly been shown no support by the other European countries in the war. Finland was trying to hold a neutral position on things, until Russians invaded. The only country that offered any form of military assistance was that of the Nazi-Germany. It was not much, but enough to fend off the attacks in the two wars against the Russians. In the end, Finns fought the Nazis, forcing them out of the country.
Thats history for you.
I lived in Finland for 7 years in the late 1990's early 2000's, it was the most difficult time of my life.
Yes, the country is well organized, but it is so well organized that you feel like you are stuck in a straight jacket of rules and regulations.
To understand what living in Finland is like, you have to understand that Finland has a small population (about 5 million people), lacks diversity (not just immigration, there are also no significant regional cultural differences), and has a strong cultural identity. This cultural identity is reinforced in schools and in the mandatory military service for the male half of the population.
This makes it difficult for immigrants to socialize. For you to be accepted, you must essentially become a Finn, which means:
1) To reject the notion that anything can be better anywhere else in the world than in Finland. Except for the weather in Spring, Summer, and Fall, which sucks most of the time and most people agree on that. Don't complain about the winter, because once you leave Southern Finland, Winter is officially beautiful. Complaining about winter in Helsinki is mandatory, but you must mention that it is dark and wet.
2) As I hinted at in my previous point, to be accepted, you must accept that you may no longer think for yourself. The official opinion of the nation is whatever is written in the editorials of the Helsingin Sanomat newspaper. Anything else is unacceptable. When in doubt, just agree with what the people around you are saying.
3) You must accept that Finnish music is the best music in the world. Everyone must like Eppu Normaali. You must also like the regional favorites of the region you choose to live in, for Eastern Finland that is J. Karjalainen. If the musician sounds depressed, that's because he/she is so deep and intelligent and really understands what is wrong with the world.
4) You must like Finnish comedy, which is mostly a very simple slapstick like humor based on stereotypes.
5) You must not be ambitious. All Finns play the role in Society that suits them best, to the best of their ability. Being ambitious indicates you might feel a sense of superiority, which is not acceptable.
As you can see, living in Finland requires you to fit in a straight jacket of rules and social norms. The Finns escape this by binge drinking. Because once you are drunk almost anything is acceptable because you are drunk. As long as you get back in the straight jacket the next day.
Also keep in mind that socializing is important for being accepted at work and for seeing some career development. I attended an international MBA program in Helsinki so I know many foreigners living in Finland. Out of that group there is only one who has been able to build a career. And he essentially did so by fitting in the mold outlined above. The rest form some of the highest educated taxi drivers and low-level corporate employees I know anywhere in the world.
Speaking of working, provided you fit in the socially acceptable mold, you typically will only get the job you were educated for, no career switching allowed.
I'm from finland here.
You can find depressing and depressed people in all countries - sure, we are shy but that doesn't mean we're depressed. It's just a cultural thing. We drink a lot, though that goes with all the nordic countries. I'd recommend visiting southern Finland during summer (Turku, Helsinki) and heading north during winter. Southern Finland during winters suck - barely any snow and it's dark, chilly and grey.
Spent a month there and loved it. It's far better than Norway and Sweden, which isn't saying much I know but it's still worth visiting.
I probably wouldn't want to live there, but it's a great place.
I live here since one year and it sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So impolite and rude people!!!!!!!
I live here since one year and it sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So impolite and rude people!!!!!!!
I have been in Finland just a few days short of a year now. I came here from the USA because I was rather bored of it and have Finnish citizenship as well. I honestly love it here. Maybe I would enjoy other places in Europe just as much but I mostly just enjoy the differences in life here. I enjoy the fact that within cities biking/public transportation is easily enough to get around with. I enjoy that the public system takes care of you so well. I was injured and my bill through USA health insurance would have been about 5000$ but through Finnish social healthcare it was only 350 euros.
Finnish is difficult to learn as a language but to be honest it is not near as difficult as others say! All the people mentioning how difficult it is makes me wonder if they really tried to learn (I knew no Finnish when I came here, my mother never spoke it to me). The nature here is beautiful, if you like biking, hiking, boating, skiing, snowmobiling, etc you will have an amazing time! Its really easy to enjoy the wilderness as the national parks are amazing and there are trails everywhere. I have spent much time in the forests here and they are really amazing, even if there isn't much variation unless you go very far up north. The people aren't depressed I think they are just shy, but once you get them to open up they are truly amazing people.
Finnish people are drunken, lazy failures who deserve death. They have ruined Upper Michigan and should be exterminated.
Lived in Finland for 6 months in the middle of nowhere - well it could have been worse but I was an hour from the nearest city and had no car - all in all it was pretty cool.
The summer was amazing but sadly too short, autumn sucks but winter despite being really dark wasn't so bad, chilling inside drinking loads of coffee and pastries.
All the Finns I've met have been either huge drinkers or don't touch alcohol (relatively few of those) so if you enjoy getting shit-faced it'll help you fit in.
Beautiful nature in Summer and Winter
Most people speak English very well
Crap loads of lakes for swimming and chilling at during Summer
Probably the least corrupt place in the world
Percentage of foreigners is just over 3% and mostly found down in Helsinki or near the Russian border so you *might* have an easy time of getting Finnish girls in the sack
Food can be a bit bland
Weather is pretty shit
Language is bloody difficult
Introvert people until you break the ice or they get drunk
I'm from Fin originally and I lived in the U.S., for many years.
It has not been good here, in the States I had a lot of life and I was feeling good daily,
here it's unfortuneatly been the opposite, it's the mentality of people here for most part,
those who have grown up here and I must say that the immigrants here are way different from U.S.,also,
there are not many western immmigrants here!
Fin is a developed modern country but people have been left far behind in mental development,
if that's the right way to describe it, or emotionally left behind?!
Very odd feeling folks and like there's some anger or bitterness under the surface?
I must be honest but I had a great life in America and I lost it all when ending up back here!
I'm from Finland. Mostly agree with what others have said. Except that in July and August you can get very beautiful nature, with lakes and forests all over. And Helsinki is kind of lively then and people more open and happy. Of course, the other 10 months of the year it's depressing.
I've been told that everything is extremely highly priced, and taxes are murder there.
You do have a point about splurging in the neighborhood countries though.
I'd like to find a place to live outside the US that isn't as.. uhh.. corrupt?
I had a friend who was exchange student there.
Finns indeed are depressed and depressing.
Nature ain't that pretty, it's grey most of the time.
Food is super bland.
Everything is expensive.
Language is just lolwhat. Though lots speak English.
But, it's a highly developed country, they often get hammered (if it's your thing) and you can go nuts in neighbour Baltic countries if you need a relief in a cheaper environment).
I suppose there are worse places, but considering the cost of living, I'd rather go in Denmark or Sweden.
However, Finland have my eternal admiration since they brought to this world the guys of Madventures (Tuna & Riku).
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